Posts Tagged Shawn Thornton

Morning Rumors and Notes: Thornton, Oilers, Weber, Preds, Phaneuf, Steen, Parise, Ericsson and Fedorov

Some notes from the last couple days.

  • NHL: (click the link to read the 12 page document) Gary Bettman upholds Shawn Thornton’s 15 game suspension.

    The National Hockey League Players’ Association (the “NHLPA” or the “Union”), on behalf of Boston Player Shawn Thornton, has appealed from a December 14, 2013 supplementary discipline decision suspending Mr. Thornton for fifteen (15) games. This shall constitute my determination of Mr. Thornton’s appeal. For the reasons described herein, I find that the decision suspending Mr. Thornton for fifteen (15) games was supported by clear and convincing evidence.

  • Elliotte Friedman of CBC: Oilers GM Craig MacTavish must decide if he’ll make a move now, or wait until after the season. It’s hard to do a “franchise-altering” trade mid-season.

    You wait until your year is over, take a deep breath and then determine what exactly is out there. You find out who else is unhappy with their team (or a player) and what they are willing to do. Last June, for example, that was Boston and the Dallas Stars, or Vancouver and the New Jersey Devils.

    Friedman thinks that MacTavish (if he hasn’t already) should call up the Predators GM David Poile to check in on Shea Weber and say: ”If you decide to trade No. 6, I’m in. I’ve got what you want. There’s no better fit in the league.” The Oilers could package one of their previous 1st round picks, not named Nail Yakupov, and this year’s first as part of the deal.

    On the pre-Christmas trade market: ”Brutal.” One NHL GM: “There was absolutely nothing out there.”

    Linus Omark trade: A conditional 2014 6th round pick from the Sabres: In 2014 if he plays 15 games this year or if he re-signs before the draft. In 2015 if he re-signs after the draft.

    Predators GM David Poile would like to make a move, but has not discussed trading Shea Weber.

    Dion Phaneuf’s deal with the Maple Leafs could be done by New Year’s.

    The Maple Leafs talked to the Canucks years ago before they traded Alex Steen to the Blues. They may have asked for Kevin Bieksa.

  • Michael Russo of the Star-Tribune: Zach Parise is being evaluated. He missed their last game with a lower-body injury. It is thought that Parise’s bruised foot from the end of November has never fully healed. He’s still limping off ice.
  • Helene St. James: Red Wings Jonathan Ericsson is out three to five weeks with fractured ribs. He could miss the Olympics.
  • Lou Korac: (24th) The Blues have sent Chris Porter and Dmitrij Jaskin to the AHL.
  • Dmitry Chesnokov: Sergei Fedorov was activated by CSKA so that he could play in the Spengler Cup.

I hope everyone who celebrates it had an excellent Christmas.

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Morning Hits with Hotstove and Coach’s Corner Videos

John Shannon: Shawn Thornton’s appeal ruling may now not be known until the 26th.

Dave Molinari: The Penguins have re-signed goaltender Jeff Zatkoff to a two-year deal with a cap hit of $600,000. William DePaoli: The Pens now have 14 players under contract for next season at about $55.1 million. Seven forwards, five defenseman and two goalies.

Frank Seravalli: Vincent Lecavalier made an early return to the lineup yesterday.

Hockey Night in Canada Hotstove:

Don Cherry’s Coach’s Corner:

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Morning Rumors and Notes with an Ugly Hockey Christmas Jersey

  • Chris Johnston of SportsNet: Senators president Cyril Leeder admitted they are having some challenges. Attendance is down and there is some talk in the industry that GM Bryan Murray might have to cut salary if the losing continues. The Senators are currently $8 million below the cap ceiling. Leeder differs,

    “I don’t see any scenario where (that will happen),” says Leeder. “I’ve been here for all 23 years and our payroll has gone up every year. When you retool you’re going to dip a little bit, but we’re where we thought we’d be — we’ve got to have a payroll that’s consistent with the age of our players as well.We need to have room to grow to keep those guys over time.”

  • James O’Brien: “Jim Rutherford won’t trade Cam Ward because that would be a bold decision and bold decisions aren’t welcome in Caroliner.”
  • Sadie Gurman of the Denver Post: Avalanche’s Semyon Varlamov has had his domestic violence case dropped as “they couldn’t prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.”

    “Most of the time, additional investigation strengthens our case. This time … it became clear we didn’t have a belief we could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.”

  • John Shannon: Bruins Shawn Thornton’s hearing started around 9:00 am yesterday morning and ended around 2:00 pm. A decision could come on Monday.
  • ESPN Chicago: Blackhawks Jason LaBarbera expected to be moved: ”I figured something would happen, but I didn’t know how, when, where, why, who.”
  • Toledo Walleye’s Christmas jersey that they will wear on Dec. 28th.

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Morning Hits: Thornton, Malart, Rielly, Gibbons, Hellberg and Lundqvist

  • Pierre LeBrun: Bruins Shawn Thornton’s appeal is for Friday morning with Gary Bettman.
  • Aaron Portzline: Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen on Ilari Malart’s decision to leave the AHL for the KHL: ”(Disappointing) in a way, yes, but it’s something we were prepared for. We would have liked to have him here for the whole year, but that’s the reality of the contract. He had the option to go back.” Portzline adds, that Melart will make a lot more money in the KHL than he will in the AHL. When his KHL season is over, he’ll be able to return to the AHL, possibly as early as March 4th.
  • Hope Smoke: Bob McKenzie: ”I expect tomorrow is d-day for the Leafs on sending Rielly to the WJHC”
  • Katie Strang: Henrik Lundqvist will make his seventh straight start tonight.

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Bruins Shawn Thornton Will Be Appealing His 15 Game Suspension

  • Stephen Whyno: Shawn Thornton’s agent confirms that he’ll be appealing the 15 games suspension.
  • Eric Macramalla: “NHLPA likely felt strategically was a good idea to appeal even though their case is not strong; need to show fight while seeking precedent” … “And yes neutral arbitrator has wide discretion including increasing length of suspension (although highly unlikely)” … “This wasn’t just Shanahan’s suspension;was league suspension given complexity of case/legal implications; so unlikely Bettman will reduce.”
  • John Shannon: “So…here’s one for you…NHLPA say the Neutral Arbitrator cannot increase Thornton’s suspension…and the NHL says he can increase it.”
  • Hope Smoke: Bob McKenzie on TSN Radio: ”Thorton’s reps can bring up the Walker on Ward & Emery on Holtby incidents in appeal. Both players weren’t suspended.”
  • 67Sound: “McKenzie is absolutely right. This is where the NHL’s hypocrisy on unwilling combatants comes back to bite them.” … “Basically Thornton combined into one nasty package a bunch of scummy things the NHL has looked the other way for individually.”


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Morning Rumors: Scrivens, Callahan, Girardi, Clarkson, Oilers, Holland, Gardiner and the Hotstove

  • Larry Brooks of the NY Post: If the Rangers are unable to re-sign Ryan Callahan and/or Dan Girardi before the trade deadline, they must consider trading them for draft picks and prospects.
  • Jonathan Willis of the Edmonton Journal: The Oilers wanted to David Clarkson before his signed with the Maple Leafs. Clarkson has struggled with the Leafs so far this season and Willis wonders the Oilers would consider trading for him if the Leafs want to get out of his contract.
  • Hope Smoke: Dreger has said that Maple Leafs coach Randy Carlyle better get use to Peter Holland whether he likes it or not. McKenzie saying that GM Dave Nonis has to tell Carlyle to play Jake Gardiner.
  • Brad Ziemer: Elliotte Friedman said on CBC last night that Laurence Gilman could be interviewed for the Flames GM position.
  • Roger Millions: Friedman said that the Flames have asked and have been granted permission to talk with Bruins assistant GM Jim Benning.
  • Hockey Night in Canada Hotstove: Panel talks about Shawn Thornton’s suspension, Sochi Olympic update, Flames and Sabres GM vacancy. The Hurricanes will likely move one of Justin Peters or Anton Khudobin soon. Friedman wouldn’t be surprised if Oilers move Linus Omark.

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Morning Hits: Thornton, Clarkson, Porter, Peluso and Engelland

  • Josh Yohe: Bruins Shawn Thornton: ”I will be consulting with the Bruins, my representation and the NHLPA about my next steps.”
  • Cap Geek: Maple Leafs David Clarkson has forfeited $397,280 in salary this season due to suspensions.
  • Bob McKenzie: Jets Anthony Peluso will have a noon hearing today with the NHL.
  • NHL Player Safety: Penguins Deryk Engelland will have an in-person hearing on Wednesday for his hit on Justin Abdelkader.
  • How many game do you think Engelland SHOULD get? How many games do you think he WILL get?

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Morning Hits: Thornton, Clarkson, Gudbranson, Mayers, Haula, Drouin and the KHL

  • Joe Haggery: Bruins Shawn Thornton’s suspension decision will almost certainly be today.
  • Nick Kypreos: Maple Leafs David Clarkson will have a hearing at 9 am this morning.
  • George Richards: Panthers GM Dale Tallon said he would call Brendan Shanahan to try and Erik Gudbranson’s match penalty rescinded.
  • Minnesota Wild: The Wild recall Erik Haula and reassign Jason Zucker.
  • Bob McKenzie: Jonathan Drouin (concussion) was symptom free yesterday after riding a stationary bike. He could skate by Tuesday.
  • Igor Eronko: Four KHL teams are in financial trouble. Spartak lost a financial source and another team received loans from the league to pay their player salaries. Atlata and Traktor still owe their players part of their salaries.

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Afternoon Hits: Futa, Thornton and Neal, Forsberg, Dumba, Rielly, Devils Injuries, Lupul and Duchene

  • Jon Rosen of LA Kings Insider: The Sabres have asked permission to speak with Kings Director of Amateur Scouting, Mike Futa, as they continue their search for a new GM.
  • Jimmy Murphy: Bruins Shawn Thornton will get more games than Penguins James Neal, but many NHL team employees and media “insiders” think what Neal did was just as bad or worse than what Thornton did.
  • Sunaya Sapurji: According to @UffeBodin, the Predators will loan Filip Forsberg to Sweden for the WJC.
  • Hope Smoke: Darren Dreger: ”Nonis told me that if Rielly wasn’t playing we would have to consider sending him to the WJC. It’s unlikely but we would consider” … ”Since Rielly has suddenly become a healthy scratch every game it is definitely something Nonis will look at.”
  • NHL Devils PR: Devils Lou Lamoriello said that Peter Harrold has a non-displaced fracture in his foot and will be in a cast for a week.
  • Tom Gulitti: Devils Ryane Clowe worked out off-ice today and will likely practice on Thursday. Steven Gionta (ankle) is skating but not ready to practice yet. Ryan Carter (leg) and Adam Larsson (lower-body) are not skating yet.
  • David Alter: Maple Leafs Joffrey Lupul confirms that he’ll be in the lineup tonight.
  • Adrian Dater: Dater thinks that Matt Duchene could be hurt or somethings as he doesn’t have his normal speed.

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Afternoon Hits: Phaneuf, Thornton, Strome, Leino, Bouchard, Laich, Quick, Staal and lines

  • Terry Koshan: Maple Leafs Dion Phaneuf’s two-game suspension will cost him $66,666.66 in salary.
  • Bob McKenzie: Bruins Shawn Thornton’s in-person hearing is tentatively set for Friday afternoon.
  • Arthur Staple: Plan now is for Islanders Ryan Strome to meet up with the team in Phoenix. Weather issues delaying original plan.
  • John Vogl: Sabres Ville Leino will be scratched for tonight’s game. Leino: ’I'm not exactly sure what he wants out of me.’
  • Brett Cyrgalis: Pierre-Marc Bouchard clears waivers and assigned to the AHL by the Islanders.
  • Chuck Gormley: Capitals Brooks Laich hasn’t skated since Sunday. Michal Neuvirth is practicing today but is still on the IR.
  • Jon Rosen: Kings Jonathan Quick may test his groin injury on Thursday.
  • New York Rangers: Rangers Alain Vigneault on Marc Staal: ”diagnosed with a concussion…doctors feel it isn’t as serious as in the past.”
  • Tom Gulitti: Devils lines: Boucher-Zajac-Jagr; Zubrus-Elias-Brunner; Bernier-Henrique-Ryder; Sestito-Loktionov-Janssen. Extra: Tedenby, Josefson.
  • David Alter: Maple Leafs lines: JVR-Kadri-Kessel, Raymond-Smith-Clarkson, Lupul-Holland-Kulemin, McLaren-McClement-D’Amigo-Ashton. Paul Hendrick: Defensive pairings: Gunnarsson and franson. Gardiner and liles. Fraser and ranger. Rielly and phaneuf is the extra pairing. Jonas Siegel: Franson and Gardiner are on the 1st PP unit. Liles and Gunnarsson on the 2nd PP unit.
  • Roger Millions: Flames lines: Cammalleri Stajan Stempniak, Bouma Backlund D. Jones, Baertschi Colborne Hudler, B. Jones Byron McGrattan.
  • Don Brennan: Senators new line: MacArthur-Spezza-Ryan.

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Morning Hits: Kostka, Hearings set for Neal and Phaneuf, Thornton TBA … Video of Phaneuf’s hit

  • Tracey Myers: The Blackhawks recalled defenseman Michael Kostka from the AHL and activated him from the IR.
  • Bob McKenzie: Maple Leafs Dion Phaneuf will have a disciplinary hearing for his hit on Kevan Miller.
  • John Shannon: Penguins James Neal will have his hearing today. Dion Phaneuf will have his hearing on Tuesday. Bruins Shawn Thornton’s hearing is yet to be determined, but probably won’t be earlier than Wednesday.

How many games do you think Phaneuf should get?

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VIDEO: Thornton and Neal Both Likely To Be Suspended … Thornton Has In-Person Hearing

In-person hearing for Thornton.

Joe Haggerty: Thornton after the game: “It was definitely awful. Its not what you want to see. Its not what anybody wants to see. I’ve felt sick all gm”

Matthew Scianitti: Thornton a couple weeks ago: “If you’re one of those guys that suckers someone when they’re down…that will come back and bite you at some point.”

How many games to you think each player should get?

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