Posts Tagged Mathieu Darche

Quick Hits: NHL draft odds, Setoguchi hearing, Gardiner and waivers, Darche retiring

  • Bob McKenzie via twitter: Odds to win the draft lottery and 1st overall pick: 30th, 25%; 29th,18.8; 28th, 14.2; 27th, 10.7; 26th, 8.1; 25th, 6.2; 24th, 4.7; 23rd, 3.6; 22nd, 2.7; 21st, 2.1; 20th, 1.5; 19th,1.1, 18th, .8; 17th, .5
  • Michael Russo via twitter: Wild winger Devin Setoguchi won’t be suspended but he will have a hearing to see how much he’ll be fined, if at all.

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Garrioch rumor roundup … NHL realignment talks coming … Waiver process … Langenbrunner done for the year

  • Bruce Garrioch via twitter:
    • The Ducks are going to have to offer up front loaded deals for Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf if they want to keep both like they say they do. Many don’t think Getzlaf will go anywhere and there was talk they were close a $60 million deal before the lockout started. There were contract discussions with Perry in the summer, but they didn’t go anywhere. If GM Bob Murray can’t get one or both signed, he can’t afford to lose them for nothing.
    • Some NHL types think the NHL should fold the Phoenix Coyotes this summer since the Greg Jamison deal has fallen through and hold a dispersal draft for their players. One NHL executive said the NHL would rather have the expansion money, around $400 million per team, from areas like Quebec City, Kansas City and Seattle instead of relocating them there. They also want to put a second Toronto team in Markham. Moving the Coyotes to Quebec City does make the most sense though.
    • Garrioch wonders if the Capitals should have tried to keep goalie Tomas Vokoun.
    • The Sharks now have 8 healthy defensemen, and they’d like to add a veteran winger before the April 3rd trade deadline.
    • The Wild’s acquisition of winger Devin Setoguchi hasn’t worked out and he could be moved. He has one year left on his deal at $3 million.
    • The Hurricanes would like to add some grit to their blueline. Joe Corvo has been a healthy scratch and could be moved. Jamie McBain could also be moved.
  • Larry Brooks of the NY Post: The NHL and NHLPA are expected to talk about realignment next week for the 2013-14 season. The NHL tried to set up a 4 conference (2 with 7 teams and 2 with 8 teams) for this season but the NHLPA would not consent to it.

    “We are working on a realignment plan for next season,” Daly wrote, “but it has not been finalized or approved [by the Board of Governors] yet.”

    “We expect to talk with the league on the subject this week,” Fehr told Slap Shots. “A year ago, when we raised the issue of increased travel for teams, the league did not have mock schedules for us to review that might have alleviated our concern.

    “And we had an issue with the fact that teams would either have a mathematical advantage or disadvantage of qualifying for the playoffs depending upon whether they’d be in a seven-team or eight-team conference.”

  • Aaron Portzline via twitter: As of yesterday, the NHL waiver claim order will be the ‘current’ day’s standings and not last season’s final standing.
  • Tom Gulitti via twitter: Mathieu Darche said there is no change on his situation with the Devils. Still not signed by the team.

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Holmstrom to retire today … Flames trade Karlsson … Injury notes: Burns, Briere, Bertuzzi, Colaiacovo, Green and McDonald

  • Ansar Khan of MLive: Red Wings Tomas Holmstrom will officially retire today. A press conference is scheduled for 4:30 at Joe Louis Arena.
  • Chicago Blackhawks: The Flames trade goalie Henrik Karlsson to the Blackhawks for a 2013 7th round pick that was previously acquired from the Senators. Karlsson will be assigned to the AHL.
  • Lou Korac via twitter: Blues coach Ken Hitchcock said that Andy McDonald is fine, took a couple stitches on the chin.

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Medvedev coming to N.A. to talk Kovalchuk buyout … Teams could look at Hemsky … Reasons for Flyers to go after Luongo

  • Igor Eronko via twitter: KHL president Alex Medvedev said he’ll be heading to North America in February to talk to the Devils about a contract buyout for Ilya Kovalchuk to bring him back to Russia.
  • The Fourth Period: With the Oilers in need of some help on the blueline, they may look at moving Ales Hemsky this season. They had inquiries last season, but decided in the end to keep him and sign him to a 2 year contract extension. At last years draft, they reportedly turned down an offer from the Canadiens that included  P.K. Subban for the 1st overall pick. The Oilers may look to send him to an Eastern Conference team. The Panthers, Devils, Islanders and Jets would all like to add a player like Hemsky and could target him. The Oilers and Jets could look at Zach Bogosian in a deal according to a league source.
  • John Boruk via twitter: Boruk looks at 4 reasons why the Flyers may explore a trade for Roberto Luongo. 1. Upgrading the position 2. Compliance buyout – would owe Ilya Bryzgalov about $23 million on a buyout. 3. The new “Luongo Rule” 4. Failure to bolster the defense.
  • TSN: Video of James Duthie sitting down with Brian Burke to discuss his firing.
  • David Pagnotta via twitter: The Canadiens have announced that 27 players will be attending training camp, including Mike Commodore, Alex Galchenyuk, Jarred Tinordi and Brendan Gallagher. There will be 16 forwards, 9 defense and 2 goalies.
  • NY Islanders via twitter: Ryan Strome and Griffin Reinhart have been recalled by the Islanders to attend training camp.
  • Arthur Staple via twitter: The Islanders made travel arrangements to have Lubomir Visnovsky flown in to New York for physicals on Sunday. Visnovsky didn’t get on it. It looks like this will have to be settled between the NHL and KHL. B.D. Gallof via twitter: Visnovsky is testing the KHL/NHL agreement. If the KHL says no, he’ll be back with the Islanders. If they say yes, he’ll remain in the KHL.
  • Corey Pronman via twitter: The Hurricanes are bringing Jeremy Welsh, Zach Boychuk, Drayson Bowman, Bobby Sanguinetti and Ryan Murphy into camp.

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Some GMs want to “Dismantle” their teams … Was a deal close on Wednesday? Some progress has been made

  • Larry Brooks of the NY Post: Gary Bettman has apparently told some NHLPA members on Thursday that the some general managers have told him they regret some of the contracts they had previously handed out and would welcome the chance to “dismantle” their team to get below the $60 million cap limit the NHL is proposing. The players were angered and demanded to know which GMs said this.
  • Michael Grange of Sportsnet: Sources are saying that a new CBA was close on Wednesday night but league sources say that the NHLPA “pulled the chute.” The PA said they didn’t nothing. Talks have leveled off the last couple days, and hope of a deal getting done by the 5th with the season starting on the 12th, are now gone. If they could have reached a deal and started on the 12th, $130 million in revenue may have been generated. That’s $65 million for the players, averaging about $100,000 per player. If a deal gets done and the season starts on Jan. 19th, the players will have lost approximately $700 million since Nov. 2nd, or about $1 million per players on average.
  • Pierre LeBrun of ESPN: Despite the positive tone leaving in the last couple days, both sides have made some progress.

    • The NHLPA agreed to go to 10 years in CBA length, finally matching the NHL’s desire on term for the deal (although the NHLPA has an opt out after Year 7 while the NHL would prefer one after Year 8).
    • The NHLPA asked the NHL to up its compliance buyout to two per team, up from one per team before the 2013-14 season. The league agreed.
    • The NHL upped its salary variance rule to 30 percent, up from the 5 percent and then 10 percent demands it had had in previous offers.

    There are still 7 or 8 issues that are unresolved, with the most meaningful ones being the salary cap for next season, max term on player contracts and the players pension.

  • Renaud Lavoie via twitter: For the NHLPA to agree on a 10 year CBA, they have a couple conditions: an opt out after 7 years and a minimum salary of $800,000 in the 9th year.
  • Tom Gulitti via twitter: The players had asked for 2 compliance buyouts. The players are not apparently upset at how GMs would use the buyouts to get rid of contracts they regret.
  • NHLPA: Players attending yesterday’s meetings: Chris Campoli, Mathieu Darche, Shane Doan, Andrew Ference, Ron Hainsey, Jamal Mayers, George Parros, Kevin Westgarth.

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Quick hits: player salaries, realignment, Orlov, Stewart, and players visiting hospitals in Montreal

  • Kevin Gibson via twitter: Based on the 2012-13 salaries, players lose $9,729,729 everyday. There are still free agents, so that number would be higher.
  • Louis Jean via twitter: Realignment was discussed during the Board of Governors meetings on Wednesday, but it will not be apart of CBA discussions.
  • Stephen Whyno via twitter: Dmitry Orlov suffered an upper-body injury last night, but it may not be serious according Hersey’s coach, Mark French.
  • Renaud Lavoie via twitter: Players who may be visiting hospitals in Montreal today (and old list): Brian Gionta, Travis Moen, Mathieu Darche, Francis Bouillon, Steve Bégin, Erik Cole, Josh Gorges, Max Pacioretty, Rene Bourque, Guillaume Latendresse, Colby Armstrong and Petteri Nokelainen.

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Meeting starts at 2 this afternoon … Methot says ego’s are keeping sides apart

  • Darren Dreger via twitter: There could be as many as 25 players in New York, with likely 10 attending the meeting. The NHL isn’t concerned about the number of players.
  • Damian Cristodero via twitter: Martin St. Louis will be in New York, but not sure if he’ll be in the meetings. He’s not sounding that optimistic that these meetings will make a difference, “I have no hope or expectations at this point,” he texted.
  • Kevin McGran via twitter: A labour negotiator told McGran that the ‘player-owner’ meeting is a big mistake on the union side of things. Players will be overmatched.
  • Andy Strickland via twitter: There are some suggestions that the NHLPA would give in on “make whole” if the owners would give in on contract rights and proposed pension.
  • Bruce Garrioch via twitter: Senators Marc Methot,

    “I don’t think (we’re that far apart),” said Methot. “I think ego is a big thing right now that is keeping us apart. You’ve got some serious issues that have been resolved and now it’s just a matter of putting your ego aside and coming to a sound deal that is obviously fair and not to over the top for both sides.

    “I’m not saying you’re never going to have (egos) in the room. You’ve got big personalities. You’ve got successful people. It’s inevitable. I don’t care who you are. When you’re in that position, you’re going to have a sense of entitlement for certain things. You can’t control that.”

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Geoffrion has surgery for depressed skull fracture … No issue if Luongo remains a Canuck … NHL-NHLPA have lunch

  • Pat Hickey vai twitter: Blake Geoffrion had surgery for a depressed skull fracture. He’s out indefinitely but is expected to make a full recovery. (video of the clean hit was posted yesterday)
  • Dan Rosen via twitter: Canucks GM Mike Gillis: “I don’t see that big of an issue if Roberto is with us. I don’t see that as an issue at all.”
  • TSN: If a new CBA gets done, and they go with a shortened schedule, how much the players will make need to be figured out.

    “It has an impact (on talks),” NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr acknowledged Friday night.

    A best case scenario is a 68 game schedule starting on December 1st. 210 games will have been cancelled and they won’t make the $3.3 billion in revenue they did last season. The NHLPA is looking to draft the deal as if there would be a 82 game schedule in year 1, the $1.833 billion in salaries last season plus 1.75%. That works out to $1.915 billion for 2012-13, but a reduction for the cancelled games would have to be figured out. Salaries would go up in the 1.75% in fixed increments each year.

    “Based on their reaction (Friday), for some reason that I don’t quite understand, they’re unwilling to do that,” said Fehr.

    The NHL would rather go off of percentages than fixed increments. The NHL offered 50-50 each year, $211 million in deferred payments, plus 2% interest to cover anticipated losses due to the lockout. The NHLPA says it would take $590 million to ‘make whole.’

  • Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: Both sides met in small groups for lunch yesterday in New York. Bill Daly and Steve Fehr will talk today to work on logistics for their next group meeting. The owners who were at the meetings on Friday did not go to lunch with the others.

    “(The owners) want games, and we want to play — everybody has that in common, especially right now,” Marc-Andre Fleury said. “You just hope things don’t go bad and everybody stops talking.”

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Sides trade offers, but still a ways to go

  • Chris Johnston via twitter: The NHLPA made offers on both revenue sharing and the players share/make whole on Wednesday night. Michael Russo via twitter: The NHL believed that the NHLPA would go to 50-50 and negotiate the “make whole.” The NHLPA again countered with gradually going to 50-50. Pierre LeBrun via twitter: The NHLPA’s offer would see players get to 50-50 of HRR in year 3. Bruce Garrioch via twitter: The NHL is not interested in getting to 50-50 in year 3, which is why they made the ‘make whole’ provision now.
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: This morning Dreger said that the NHL presented an offer to the NHLPA in response to to the PA’s offer on Wednesday. There is still a large gap.
  • Pierre LeBrun of ESPN: The NHLPA felt in their offer, that because they went from 57% to 50%, they didn’t feel they had to give back in a lot of other areas. The NHL responded with an offer on both revenue sharing and ‘make whole,” honoring all existing player contracts. A source said the NHLPA wasn’t impressed by it. The NHL’s offer also included some player contract issues, and increased their revenue share model to $200 million. After their meeting, both sides went their separate ways for internal meetings.
  • James Mirtle via twitter: Under the NHLPA’s revenue share system, 6 teams would get a huge chunk of it: Coyotes, Islanders, Blue Jackets, Panthers, Predators and Hurricanes.
  • Tom Gulitti via twitter: The NHLPA initially offered $240 million in revenue share in it’s initial proposal, the NHL offered $200 million. @mirtle said the NHLPA upped their number to $260 million in Wednesday’s offer.
  • John Shannon via twitter: Players at yesterday’s meetings: David Backes, Chris Campoli, Mathieu Darche, Ron Hainsey, Johan Hedberg,  Manny Malhotra and Kevin Westgarth.
  • Katie Strang via twitter: Gary Bettman: “I don’t know what Don said but the fact is, we have a lot of work to do and we’re working hard.”
  • Chris Johnston via twitter: Don Fehr: “I’m not going to characterize (talks) except to say that it’s always better when you’re meeting than when you’re not.”
  • Renaud Lavoie via twitter: After talking to 2 sources, Lavoie can say this: “We are not even close to a deal. NHL wants more concession from players … who are prepare to give 1 billion $ in 5 years. Not enough. NHL and PA are not close on make whole. Bottom line: lots of work to be done. The only good news, they are still talking and trying hard to find a solution on all the issues.”
  • Doug Maclean via twitter: The Board of Governors were sent a memo on Wednesday night from Bettman saying that if there was not traction yesterday, talks could breakdown. So it looks like there was some traction made yesterday.
  • John Shannon via twitter: Shannon was told that the NHL was not sure if there was any real traction made yesterday. They’ll wait for the NHLPA to respond on Friday.
  • Steve Zipay via twitter: Zipay noted yesterday that the next 24-48 hours will be tipping point if talks really move forward or slide sideways.

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NHL-NHLPA meet for 7 hours … Still a long way to go … Players who attended the meetings

  • Chris Johnston (CP) in the Global News: The NHL and NHLPA met for about 7 hours yesterday, with the meeting wrapping up around 10:15 pm. Both sides didn’t want to say much about how things went.

    “With meetings scheduled to resume Wednesday, the league will not characterize the substance or detail of the discussions until their conclusion,” deputy commissioner Bill Daly said in a statement on Tuesday night.

    Before the meeting started yesterday, Don Fehr had this to say:

    “We’re hopeful that we’ll start bargaining and we’ll continue bargaining until we find a way to make a deal,” he said.

    “It’s very good to be getting back to the table,” said Fehr. “We hope that this time it produces more progress that we’ve seen in the past and we can figure out a way to make an agreement and to get the game back on the ice as soon as possible.”

    The biggest issue has been how to ‘make whole.’ The NHL has said they will assume more liability in exchange for capping contracts at 5 years, entry-level deals at 2 years, and unrestricted free agency being at 28 years old or after 8 years of NHL service. The union isn’t a really fan of that.

  • Pierre LeBrun via twitter: LeBrun noted that it was good that the the meeting was long, but it’s dangerous to read to much into it. There is a lot of ground to cover. Bob McKenzie via twitter: Meeting for hours, not saying anything afterwards, and meeting today is probably the best thing that anyone could have hoped for.
  • NHLPA via twitter: Players who attended yesterday’s talks: Adams, Backes, Biron, Campoli, Crosby, Darche, Hainsey, Hedberg, Lucic, Malhotra, Montador, S. Thornton, and Westgarth.
  • Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: Sidney Crosby and team player rep Craig Adams hadn’t planned on going to yesterday’s CBA meetings, but after the union conference call on Monday night, they changed their mind. Several Penguins thought the manner in which guaranteed contracts were going to be honored was the major stumbling block between the two sides.

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