NHL Rumors I: Arcobello over Roy, Lecavalier and Flyers Potential Lines and Pairings


  • David Staple of the Edmonton Journal: Craig Button and Bob Stauffer were talking about the Oilers depth down the middle. Button doesn’t think Derek Roy could help the Oilers.

    “He can’t play,” Button said of Roy. “He can’t skate, he can’t play, he’s not big enough, he’s been injured. Basically, he’s not good enough. Wouldn’t touch him.

    “Up until about three years ago he was a very good, strong player but he ended up getting injured and the game got quicker and faster and to me he’s just not able to play at the pace and in the Western Conference. Small centreman that can’t skate, I’m not interested.”

    Button on going with Mark Arcobello over a player like Roy.

    “I’d rather go with an unproven guy that skates better, competes, hasn’t been injured. Players have an expiration date, I get that. And they have a period of time leading up to the expiration date. That’s just the nature of pro sports and that’s never going to change. But I’m not prepared to go and take players who are at that point and don’t fit what your needs are just because they have experience.”

  • Sam Carchidi of the Philadelphia Inquirer: The Flyers are still trying to trade Vincent Lecavalier. Teams are asking the Flyers to pay a big part of his salary and include a prospect or pick. If that is the case, it may be a better idea to keep him as he can still be effective on the power play. Carchidi looks at how the Flyers lines could look like next year:

    Line 1: Giroux centering Michael Raffl and Jake Voracek.
    Line 2: Brayden Schenn centering Lecavalier and Wayne Simmonds.
    Line 3: Sean Couturier centering R.J. Umberger and Matt Read.
    Line 4: Scott Laughton centering Pierre-Edouard Bellemare (or Jason Akeson) and Zac Rinaldo.

    Pairing 1: Braydon Coburn and Kimmo Timonen.
    Pairing 2: Nick Grossmann and Mark Streit.
    Pairing 3: Luke Schenn and Andrew MacDonald.

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  1. #1 by Dan at July 7th, 2014

    Has this reporter, Carchidi, ever watched Grossman and Streit. They are brutal. Grossman can not skate and Streit could not defend his own zone if his life depended on it. With the $$ paid to McDonald, he better be a top 4 d’man. The Flyers prospects have got to be better than Grossman or they miss the playoffs.

  2. #2 by ChrisB at July 7th, 2014

    Flyers still need to get under $69m, whether they are able to trade Vinny or not These lines don’t reflect that whatsoever. These lines still leave them over cap $2.99m. They’ll be fine once the season starts, when they can LITR Pronger, but they need to be compliant before then.

  3. #3 by Alex at July 7th, 2014

    That is incorrect ChrisB. They can move Pronger to LTIR before the season starts. They however only receive as much cap as they are over up to 4.9mil.

  4. #4 by Ryan at July 7th, 2014

    First of all, I am really getting sick of people really saying Simmonds is going to be on the 2nd line…

    I put up with it for a whole season screaming at Laviolette and then Berube to put Simmonds on the top line with Giroux and Voracek, and NOW that hartnell is gone I was hoping it was too obvious to pass up REGARDLESS of who you went out and got in FA(which was nobody because of money, I get it and I’m not even upset with that.)

    I just pray that Simmonds, a guy who is turning 24 and has arguably been our best player over the last 2 seasons outside of Giroux and who has had 2 28 goals seasons on the 2nd line. I get that he gets alot of goals/points on the top PP, but he obvously knows how to get it done, and THUS has chemistry with Giroux and Voracek already anyway.

    Please don’t preach that Voracke and Simmonds are both RWs and won’t work….. Simmonds goes to the front of the net, bottom line, and they will know their roles.

    Pathetic if Simmonds isn’t on the top line…. Read deserves a bump up to the 2nd line with Vinny and Schenn considering he had 22 goals (with virtually no PP time) and mostly because Raffl is a great defensive shut down player who can compliment Coots just as well, with the defensively capable addition of Umberger.

    Simmonds-G-Voracek
    Vinny-Schenn-Read
    Raffl-Coots-Umberger
    Rinaldo-Laughton-Akeson

    2ndly…

    Dan… can’t say I’m in love with Grossmann, but he is a big body that throws some weight around and blocks a lot of shots. It’s pretty ridiculous, to say Grossmann isn’t a good option…

    Again, I agree he’s probably the 4th, maybe 5th option on this team at best, but like most of these guys, they are all middle of the pack average defenders. Coburn probably could go to about 10 other teams in the league and hop on the top pairing, Timonen would probably have a few less than that with his age, but both would probably just be a top 4 defender on most teams… but no one on this team wouldn’t have a spot on any teams top 6 in the league.

    Again… not happy or content with the D, but there wasn’t anything worth paying for out there in FA and apparently a trade wasn’t in play. Giving Ghost, Morin and Hagg more time to develop is essential for this group moving forward to allow us to work out some deals with this kids down the road that are Cap friendly…. that is how you build a team that actually HAS some money to spend during FA, even though Pronger kind of screws us up a little.

  5. #5 by mikeyb at July 8th, 2014

    Line 1

    Simmonds Azz Graber Vorachek

    Line 2 Everyone Breathe Coots has got to be giving an opportunity to see what he can do offensively

    AKeson Coots B SCHENN

    Line 3.

    Read. Vinny. Um

    Line 4

    Raffl Scott L. Bellamare/Hall/Rinaldo

  6. #6 by ChrisB at July 8th, 2014

    Yea, at the end of training camp, they can(if my understanding of 50.10 of the CBA is correct), but they still need to make moves, whether it be via trade, or demote/waive a player(s). I just want to know how this guy got to this point. Anybody can pencil in starting lines.

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