Morning Rumors: Kings, Oilers, Predators, Senators, Sharks, 2018 and 2022 Olympics


  • John Shannon: Trades can start happening as of midnight on February 23rd.
  • Lisa Dillman of the LA Times: The Kings were in discussion with the Oilers about Sam Gagner before the Olympic’s, but it apparently wasn’t close and it is now doubtful that they will pursue him when the roster freeze is lifted.
  • David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Allan Muir of SI notes:

    “That may open a window for the Predators, who have also been rumored to have an interest in Gagner. Nashville is thought to be looking for a young, offensive-minded center and it has a surplus of what Edmonton needs: young, talented defenders. The name of 2009 first rounder Ryan Ellis has been mentioned, but while he has a proven chemistry with Oilers winger Taylor Hall from their Memorial Cup-winning days in Windsor of the OHL, Edmonton might be looking for a blueliner who is a bit more defensively responsible. Jonathan Ismael-Daiby might be intriguing to the Oilers as part of a package, as would defensive center Austin Watson.”

    Staples adds that it may make more sense for the Oilers to hold onto Gagner, waiting until the end of the season to decide what to do with him. If he continues to play better, it will only increase his trade value. Teams may also have more cap space available. Ryan Ellis may not be the type of defenseman the Oilers really need as they already have several “finesse type d-men.” The Oilers could use a defensive defenseman.

  • Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun: Senators owner Eugene Melnyk said that if they are to be buyers, it will happen right at the deadline.

    “Some teams need three or four more games before they say, ‘We don’t have a shot and we’re not in,’” said Melnyk. “Right now, there are six teams that aren’t in and I think by March 5 there will be eight teams that will basically say they’re not going to get there.

    “(Murray’s) looking. If we can get a power forward in there that’s the only piece we need subject to any injuries. Knock on wood with that one because we’ve had a very good year with injuries compared to some other ones.”

    Melnyk doesn’t think the salary cap will keep rising, that it will max out at some point.

    “At some point you could be stuck because the cap has come down. Then, you go, ‘Wait a minute, it’s come down and I’ve got to unload $5 or $10 million worth of salary.’ That day will come,” said Melnyk. “It’s like the stock market. You can’t go straight up all the time. Eventually there’s correction and it rebuilds. You’ve got to leave yourself with some room.

    “I don’t care if people criticize me. The fact is the team has survived in very difficult circumstances.”

  • The Fourth Period: The Sharks could be looking for a scoring left winger. They have more than $3 million in cap space. GM Doug Wilson could look at Thomas Vanek, Matt Moulson, Mike Cammalleri and Ales Hemsky.
  • Hope Smoke: On the Fan 590, Damien Cox said he thinks the NHL can skip the 2018 Olympics and go back in 2022.

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  1. #1 by I_am_I at February 19th, 2014

    No Eugene it isn’t like the stock market. There may be a dip if wthe Canadian dollars tanks but otherwise inflation will keep it going up. Maybe not at 7% but. Probably over 2% like real world inflation.

  2. #2 by FireDougWilson at February 19th, 2014

    Doug Wilson will not be trading for any scoring winger, Wilson will go the same easy route he always goes. Trade a draft pick or two for a 4th line grinder who will amount to nothing.

  3. #3 by Chris at February 20th, 2014

    So Oiler fans now think that they can trade Sam Gagner for Ryan Ellis? (Face Palm).

    I remember Oiler fans insisting that they should trade Linus Omark for a 1st round pick and then crying when they ‘should have got more’ for him when they traded him for a conditional 6th. Then he went to Buffalo…and was terrible…because he is terrible.

    This applies to Sam Gagner. He will still be a small, wimpy centre who can’t win face-offs and is bad defensively no matter where he goes. OH and he still won’t put up points.

    So why would Nashville trade a Ellis who is 23, a defenseman, and has 16pts and is a +5 for a 24 year old old centre with 24 points and a -20 AND a 4.8 mil cap hit?

    If Oilers want to trade Gagner they will have to do the following
    1. Eat salary
    2. Accept a 3rd round pick and a depth prospect in return. Nobody is going to pony up for this guy. There are way better options if a team wants to spend significant assets. Vanek, Moulson, Gaborik, Ruutu, Cammalari etc. are ALL WAAAAY better than Gagner.

    So sick of Edmonton fans overvaluing their terrible players. What has any of them accomplished that gives them this value??

  4. #4 by matt at February 20th, 2014

    As an oiler fan I say this with all due respect, the idea that gagner could be traded for Ellis isn’t worth a velet painting of a whale fucking a horse. Then staples goes on to say Ellis might not be enough. Like we could get more than Ellis if we just hang on to ganger a bit longer. Lmao, I know its a trade rumor but let’s make them at least plausible.

  5. #5 by Chris at February 20th, 2014

    Dude I’m a Leaf fan. They’re just as bad for this kind of crap. Kulemin and a 2nd for Shea Weber!! Lol.

  6. #6 by Adam at February 20th, 2014

    Just a note, I’d imagine the oilers want to move gagner before the summer when his full NTC kicks in and totally limits where they can move his already droping value. As a preds fan giving up Ellis may sound crazy but he just doesn’t have a future here anymore. He’s not going to want to be a third pairing + pp specalist his entire career, he’s going to want a chance to prove he can play top 4 min which he just isn’t going to get here.

  7. #7 by Chris at February 21st, 2014

    Adam that may be true but other teams would pay more to get a guy like Ellis. If the Oilers want Ellis it would start with a top prospect like Nurse, Klefbom or a high pick. I feel that a team like Buffalo have enough assets, and the same desire for a good young d man, to outbid the Oilers. Buffalo could trade Grigorenko and not even blink and that would be a better deal than Gagner. Winnipeg could do the same.

    If the Oilers are serious about getting good soon, and I’ve been saying this for a while, they need to pick 2 of their 4 young guns to build around; I’d pick Hall and RNH and trade the other two (Eberle and Yakupov) for a legitimate top 2 d man and a legitimate top 4 d man or starting goalie. That is realistic.

    They could always wait a bit longer. I have no doubt that Nurse, Klefbom, Marincin and Shultz will improve, but d men take a long time and it could mean another 2 or 3 years of losing (or more) but at least you’d keep your big guns.

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