Morning Rumors: Oilers, Canucks, Sharks, Rangers, Avs, Kings, Sabres, Habs, Flames, Scouting Kings-Wild


  • Elliotte Friedman of CBC: Oilers Sam Gagner’s no-trade clause hasn’t kicked in yet. GM Craig MacTavish promised to honour it this season. Both sides may now believe it’s time for a change. There has been no contract talks between the Canucks and Mike Santorelli. Friedman wonders if the Sharks will be interested in Michael Del Zotto. They scouted him closely last year when the Sharks and Rangers were talking about Ryane Clowe. Many believe the Ducks will be interested in Dan Girardi if he becomes available. Avalanche’s Jamie McGinn is rumored to be available.
  • Jon Rosen of LA Kings Insider: Kings GM Dean Lombardi on Dwight King and team needs at left wing.

    But now you’re starting to see it, and like I said, the issue is him maintaining it and raising it again, because if you look at some of the things he can do, I think there’s another level there if he wants to put his mind to it. So, I guess, to answer your question, ‘Does it lessen the sense of urgency on the left wing?’ I don’t know…you’re always looking to improve every part of your team if possible. We’re not at the stage, yet, too – you’re starting to see now buyers and sellers, getting a little of that now. So, to answer your question – part of your answer was ‘What’s also in the marketplace? Is it better than what you’ve got? And I have no indication of that right now. We’ll see how that evolves over the next month or so.

    Lombardi on the trade deadline:

    The other thing that’s changed is a lot of teams that would have players on the last year of their contract or are quote-unquote sellers, they’ve figured it out. I’m not just going to unload these guys because I need assets. Because I still need people to play. So I’m going to keep them and sign ‘em. So it used to be in the old days, yeah, I’d get rid of ‘em because you want to get something for ‘em. Now, they’re looking at stepping back and saying, ‘hey, I need guys to play next year,’ because the other thing, too, is we all see that it’s getting like the NFL where the whole building process, you’re not that far away because everybody’s so close. You’ve got some really good teams, you’ve got some really bad teams…so these teams that might be selling now are thinking, ‘well, we’re a player or two away. But I don’t want to give up this rental. I want to keep him, because I don’t want to be three players away.’ So now it gets back to, ‘OK, what’s really out there?’ Look at the last six years and circle the deals that worked out well, that really had an impact. You’d be surprised.

  • Terry Jones of the Edmonton Sun: Oilers GM Craig MacTavish on possibility of drafting high again.

    “When you’re drafting in the top seven picks, you can’t pass up those opportunities. You can’t pass them up unless it makes sense and nothing we were offered last year made sense,” he said of proceeding and drafting 6-foot-3, 192-pound Darnell Nurse 7th overall last year.

    “Certainly we’ll be in a position of listening, but when you are drafting that high, it’s tough to pass on skill and youth like that. We’re certainly scouting like we’re going to be picking.”

  • TSN Insider Trading: Dreger: The Oilers would considering trading center Sam Gagner, with the return being a top-six forward, top-four defeseman or a starting goalie.
  • Bob McKenzie: Senators assistant GM Tim Murray will be the Sabres next GM pending successful negotiations.
  • myNHLTR: Bob McKenzie said on TSN last night that contract talks between the Canadiens and P.K. Subban are ongoing. After Dion Phaneuf signed his deal for $7 million per season, Subban could ask for $8-$9 million.
  • Dennis Bernstein: Non-regular scouts at the Kings-Wild game last night: Rangers, Blue Jackets and Panthers.
  • myNHLTR: Darren Dreger on TSN last night said that former Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson is putting the word out that he’s interested in coaching again.
  • myNHLTR: Bob McKenzie said that the Flames GM search could take until the draft.
  • Bob McKenzie: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman is opposed to even discussing having teams getting compensation for losing employees. Red Wings GM Ken Holland and Flames president Brian Burke have wanted compensation. Other teams joining in after the Sabres lengthy GM search.
  1. #1 by Chris at January 8th, 2014

    Sam Gagner is not a top six forward and they want one in return for him? I think the Oilers need to understand that they have to sweeten the pot if they wanted to trade him for another bad contract.

    4.8 million. Other guys who make around that: Patrice Bergeron, James Neal, Val Filpula, Bobby Ryan and Scott Hartnell.

    Gagner is small, brutal defensively, sucks at faceoffs and doesn’t put up big numbers. Why on earth would anybody pay a top 6 forward or a top 4 d man for that skill set?

    I’m all for teams getting compensated for losing staff. I think losing Dudley to Montreal seriously hurt the Leafs scouting and drafting abilities.

  2. #2 by Nick Longo at January 8th, 2014

    Reimer for Gagner? I’m thinking a package like:

    Reims Dubnyk
    Kadri Gagner
    Gardiner Schultz
    Kulemin Perron

    Toronto would get the boost on forwards, with built-in line chemistry. Edmonton would get an improvement in net and on d.

  3. #3 by Chris at January 8th, 2014

    Reims is a better goaltender than Dubnyk by a long shot.

    Kadri is a better and more complete player than Gagner. He has more points this year, more last year, is improving on face-offs and is very physical (but still small). He is also younger with a lower cap hit.

    Gardiner and Schultz bring a similar skill set (Schultz is great on the pp while Gardiner is more of a puck mover but better defensively)

    Kulemin plays a different role than Perron. Perron is a top six winger but the Leafs have 4 excellent wingers in their top six (JVR, Lupul, Kessel, Raymond) and Perron wouldn’t oust any of them.

    That trade would only benefit the Oilers. The Leafs would get a worse goaltender and a worse centre than they are giving up and would’t address their defensive issues by getting a forward and a defenseman who is bad defensively.

    Reimer is a legitimate starting goaltender who got a bad defensive team to the playoffs and almost upset the Bruins. He’s got good numbers this year too. If you want to get a proven starting goaltender you need to give up something of value like:

    a 2nd round pick and a roster player
    a good prospect like Marincin or Klefbom.

    If you wanted Kadri you’d have to give up an a list prospect like Nurse or Yakupov.

    Gardiner is a young d man with upside. If you wanted to get him it would take a good roster player (lile Schultz) or an a top prospect like Nurse.

    Kulemin has value but would cost less.

    If the Oilers want to get anything of value they’ll have to give it up. Nobody will give up huge assets for Gagner, Hemsky, etc.

    The reason you want to get rid of these guys is the same reason other teams don’t want them. The reason you want to hold on to other guys, is the reason other teams want them.

  4. #4 by Kai Kuwata at January 8th, 2014

    Leafs need D (even w/ Gleason) and C. Oilers need G. Kings need LF. Proposed trades . . .
    Trade 1 – Greene ($2.95, UFA 2014) and Stoll ($3.25) to Leafs. Raymond ($1.0, UFA 2014) and Bozak ($4.2) to Kings. Leafs get tough defender (to pair w/ DP) , top face off/PK guy and leadership. Kings get speed and scoring potential.
    Trade 2 – Scrivens ($.055, UFA 2014) to Oilers. Petry ($1.75, UFA 2014) to Kings. Oilers get Top 10 G (by 2013/2014 stats). Kings get D to replace Greene.

  5. #5 by Leaf_Fan at January 8th, 2014

    Bozak isnt going anywhere

  6. #6 by Chris at January 8th, 2014

    I wouldn’t trade Bozak at all. He’s quietly becoming a legitimate #1 centreman in the NHL.

    He’s not Crosby or Getzlaf calibre but he’s increased his point totals every year (last year was only a half year but he was on pace to eclipse his 47 points the year before). This year he’s got 17 points in 20 games, is a +2 while playing a lot of minutes on a bad defensive team and is above average in the faceoff circle.

    Stoll is a great defensive centre but he wouldn’t bring anything Bolland doesn’t bring.

    I would take Greene on the Leafs in a heartbeat. Not sure the LEafs have anything the Kings need though.

  7. #7 by Chris at January 8th, 2014

    An interesting thought regarding Bozak. It’s funny how Brian Burke was ridiculed for dipping into the college free agent market (despite the fact that guys like Kunitz, DeKeyser, Penner, St. Louis and Dan Boyle were among many players signed this way), and now Bozak has developed into a very good NHLer.

    Bozak’s draft year was 2004 and obviously he was not drafted.

    When you look at that draft year, Bozak would have been a late 1st round or 2nd round pick in a draft do- over considering all of the 1st rounders that are busts (like Rob Schremp or Lukas Kasper) and some of the later picks that turned into great players (like Kreici, Bolland and Franzen).

    Gotta hand it to Burke. Even if the others didn’t work out, the strategy was worth a Bozak.

  8. #8 by hotwings at January 9th, 2014

    dont forget about the other burke signing at the time…. christian hanson i believe? didnt fare as well after spending limited time in the nhl w/ tor+wash..

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