Archive for November, 2012

A owners-players meeting without NHL and NHLPA leaders proposed by Bettman

  • Katie Strang via twitter: Multiple sources are saying that Gary Bettman proposed to Don Fehr a meeting between only the owners and players, without the NHL and NHLPA staff present. Darren Dreger via twitter: Fehr and the PA are considering Bettman’s offer.
  • Pierre LeBrun via twitter: In Bill Daly’s email about Bettman’s offer: “We want to find a way to get to a deal. Nothing else has worked. The Commissioner felt that we might as well propose something different. We will see how they respond.”
  • Ian Pulver via twitter: Pulver is hearing that the NHL wants to “hand pick” and “screen” which players would be allowed to attend the owners-players meeting if it happens. Allan Walsh via twitter: Walsh has heard the same.
  • Katie Strang via twitter: Who is allowed/invited to attend the proposed owner-players meeting will be discussed as the NHLPA thinks on the idea.
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: Not all owners would be at this meeting if it happens. Dreger isn’t sure why either side wouldn’t welcome this idea.
  • Nick Cotsonika via twitter: “Players think Gary is problem. Owners think Don is problem. Fine. Get them out of the room, keep lawyers to protect players and talk.”
  • Louis Jean via twitter: “My sense is players aren’t too enchanted by league proposal for players/owners only meeting. “It’s a stunt” said one player.”
  • Brian Lawton via twitter: Lawton has heard that many owners want a chance to express themselves directly to the players.

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No progress after two days of mediation … Disclaimer of interest or decertifying could be next step

  • TSN: Bill Daly after the yesterday’s meetings:

    “After spending several hours with both sides over two days, the presiding mediators concluded that the parties remained far apart, and that no progress toward a resolution could be made through further mediation at this point in time,” deputy commissioner Bill Daly said Thursday in a statement. “We are disappointed that the mediation process was not successful.”

    Don Fehr after yesterday’s meetings:

    “The mediators informed the parties that they did not think it was productive to continue the discussions further today,” said Fehr. “The mediators indicated that they would stay in contact with the league and the NHLPA, and would call the parties back together when they thought the time was right.”

  • Renaud Lavoie via twitter: NHLPA director of communication of Jonathan Weatherdon: ”We will be discussing all matters regarding the last two days of mediation as well as potential next steps with the Executive Board and Negotiating Committee.”
  • Aaron Ward via twitter: The NHLPA will have a conference call today with the Executive Board and Negotiating Committee.
  • Elliotte Friedman via twitter: The next stop for the NHLPA will be “Disclaimer of Interest.” Don Fehr would no longer represent the players. It is similar to decertifying, but faster. Steve Zipay via twitter: The NBA did this as well. Dissolved the union and file a class-action anti-trust litigation against the NBA.
  • Renaud Lavoie via twitter: The next step will be for the NHLPA to de-certify and make the lockout illegal. The NHLPA wants to put pressure on the NHL.
  • Dan Tencer via twitter: “For mediation to work, both sides have to be willing to listen, be flexible and compromise. In other words, want to make a deal. So…yeah.”
  • Renaud Lavoie via twitter: “The mediation process did not work. No surprise there. Nobody tough it could work 48 hours ago anyway.”

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No concussion for Giroux … Galiardi back in Calgary … No WJC for Zibanejad … WHL on Portland sanctions

  • Tim Panaccio via twitter: After spending a couple days getting neck treatment in Atlanta, Claude Giroux is feeling “really fine.” His injury is not considered a concussion.
  • Kevin Kurz of CSN Bay Area: Sharks T.J. Galiardi left his German team after suffering a knee injury and has returned to Calgary according to the Calgary Herald. The injury doesn’t seem to be serious, and he’s been practicing with the Calgary Hitman of the WHL.
  • Sylvain St-Laurent via twitter: The Senators will not be making Mika Zibanejad available for the World Junior Championship. Ian Mendes via twitter: Sens GM Bryan Murray: ”We feel like keeping Mika here to play in North America is the best decision for his development. As a young player and person, he’s learning how to play the North American style and continues to progress playing for Luke in Binghamton.”
  • Daren Millard via twitter: A statement from WHL commissioner Ron Robison on Portland Winterhawks sanctions: “We believe the sanctions are not excessive given the repeated and systemic nature of the violations. The independent investigation discovered an unprecedented number of violations.  It is the responsibility of each WHL Club and General Manager to be fully aware of the WHL Regulations and to be in compliance at all times. These sanctions are necessary in order to protect the overall welfare and integrity of our League and to preserve a level playing field for all of our member Clubs and our players.”

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Mediation again today … The Arizona Coyotes? Jets representative may have been reprimanded by Jacobs

  • John Shannon via twitter: Mediation between the NHL and NHLPA will also take place today. Can’t tell how things went yesterday, won’t know anything until today at a minimum. NHLPA simply acknowledged the meeting in a short statement, NHL said they can’t say anything. Pierre LeBrun via twitter: The NHL and NHLPA’s meeting with the mediators will start at 11:00 am.
  • David Pagnotta via twitter: If everything works out for the Coyotes and they stay in Glendale, they’ll likely end up changing their name to the “Arizona Coyotes.” Changing their name would lead to new logos, new jerseys, new merchandise and possibly state tax exemptions.
  • Joe Haggerty of CSNNE: Haggerty notes that a Winnipeg Jets rep (not Mark Chipman) at a NHL Board of Governors meeting said they were opposed to a long, bloddy lockout as it will hurt the franchises momentum and hurt the game itself. Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs then reprimanded the representative as one of the “new kids on block” and told him he wouldn’t be allowed to speak in the board room.
  • Ed Tait of the Winnipeg Free Press: The Winnipeg Jets and the NHL are denying the report that a Jets representative was reprimanded at a board of Governors meeting. Bill Daly said the report was “100% complete and total fabrication.” Mark Chipman offered a statement:

    “I was disappointed to learn today of a report which claimed an exchange took place between an Alternate Governor of the Winnipeg Jets and Jeremy Jacobs of the Boston Bruins at a recent NHL Board of Governors meeting. I was present throughout all BOG proceedings and can categorically state that no such exchange between Mr. Jacobs and either one of our Alternate Governors – Patrick Phillips or Kevin Cheveldayoff – ever took place. Any suggestion otherwise is completely false.”

  • Haggerty and Michael Felger on the Mediation (filmed before yesterday’s meetings)

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Harding diagnosed with multiple sclerosis … Henrique out 4-6 weeks … Giroux having treatment in Atlanta … Schneider in Switzerland

  • Michael Russo of the Star-Tribune: (I’ll post a few notes/quotes, but you should read the entire article) 28 year old Josh Harding has been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. He and his family have known for a month, but only yesterday did he start telling friends and Wild teammates.

    “I don’t look at this like I’ve got to take a new path,” said Harding, drafted 10 years ago by the Wild and months off signing a new three-year contract. “This is a little bump in the road. I’ve had lots in life.”

    “I had a couple days where I felt bad for myself, but no more,” said Harding, who plans on continuing his career. “There’s things in life that happen. Sometimes you can’t explain it. You deal with it.”

    He has made it clear that this will not end his career.

    “There’s going to be some good days and bad days, but I think if you talk to anybody in life, there’s going to be some good days and bad days,” Harding said.

  • Dan Rosen via twitter: Devils Adam Henrique injured his ulnar collateral ligament in his left thumb. He will have surgery today and will about 4 to 6 weeks.
  • Pierre LeBrun via twitter: Canucks Cory Schneider’s deal with Ambri Piotta of the Swiss league goes through December according to his agent, Mike Liut.

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Forbes release NHL team values: Maple Leafs valued at $1 billion

Forbes released their 2012 NHL team values today, with the Toronto Maple Leafs hitting the $1 billion mark. Along with the Leafs, only the Rangers and Canadiens are valued at more than $350 million.

The Maple Leafs are valued at more than the bottom six teams combined, with over a $100 million to spare. The bottom six teams are Predators, Hurricanes, Islanders,  Blue Jackets, Coyotes and Blues.

RK Team
Team value
Operating Income
1 Toronto Maple Leafs
2 New York Rangers
3 Montreal Canadiens
4 Chicago Blackhawks
5 Boston Bruins
6 Detroit Red Wings
7 Vancouver Canucks
8 Philadelphia Flyers
9 Pittsburgh Penguins
10 Los Angeles Kings
11 Washington Capitals
12 Calgary Flames
13 Dallas Stars
14 Edmonton Oilers
15 San Jose Sharks
16 Ottawa Senators
17 Minnesota Wild
18 Colorado Avalanche
19 New Jersey Devils
20 Winnipeg Jets
21 Anaheim Ducks
22 Buffalo Sabres
23 Tampa Bay Lightning
24 Florida Panthers
25 Nashville Predators
26 Carolina Hurricanes
27 New York Islanders
28 Columbus Blue Jackets
29 Phoenix Coyotes
30 St. Louis Blues


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Glendale City Council approves Coyotes arena deal

  • Sonu Munshi of USA Today: The Glendale City Council voted in favor for a 20 year, $320 million arena-management deal and lease with potential owner Greg Jamison. Jamison said he hopes to buy the team in the next 30 to 60 days for an expected $170 million.

    “The major-league franchise has a very strong obligation to be a partner with the city it resides in,” Jamison said.

    “Eight years and 11 months later, hopefully we are celebrating an event as important to our arena as the opening itself,” Councilwoman Joyce Clark said.

    The new deal between Jamison and the City has lighter payments in the first five years, and has incentives for him to bring in non-hockey related events, as well as penalties for NHL lockouts.

  • David Pagnotta via twitter: Part of the Glendale City Council vote: “1. The city receives 15% of the naming rights revenue of the arena and 15% from advertising revenue for city-owned parking spaces. 2. The total payment for the first five years is $71 million (arena management fee) compared to $95 million in previous agreement. 3. (My fav) The Arena Manager will pay the city $60,000 for every game not played during the season caused by a lock out or player’s strike.”


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No proposal from NHL … A 48 game schedule ready to go? Mayers on “won’t or can’t give anymore”

  • Louis Jean via twitter: Sources are saying that the NHL has no plans on presenting the NHLPA a new proposal when mediation starts today.
  • John Buccigross via twitter: A NHL player told Buccigross that a NHL team front office employee told the player that a 48 game schedule starting at the beginning of January is already outlined.
  • Aaron Portzline via twitter: Portzline talked with many people in different hockey capacities, and none of them thought that mediation would be any kind of remedy.
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: Jamal Mayers responded to one of Dreger’s tweets about how some owners say they won’t or can’t give anymore: 1) “Owners can’t give anymore? What have they given? We’re conceding in every area and expected to keep giving? Share 57-50. Make Whole they signed contracts,system issues?We offered solution to back diving they don’t need other issues let Mngrs manage. Pension it would be at our cost they still say no…so many more issues they have not given anything just take take take! biggest complaint is us not using same language. We did last Wed and they shoot it down in 2hrs?$182 M over 5 yrs? Makes sense? ALL players are now willing to dig in.”

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Doan was close to signing with the Flyers … Sheahan was arrested in a Teletubby costume … Klefbom surgery choice

  • Sarah Baicker of CSNPhilly: A day after Shane Doan re-signed with the Coyotes in September, his agent, Terry Bross, posted a picture of two Shane Doan jersey’s in Flyers colors on instagram. The picture had the caption “So glad this didn’t happen. It came close though.” A Flyers team source did say the that the Flyers created Doan jerseys “months ago.” Theey also said that it is not uncommon for them to make up jerseys for potential players.
  • Peter Wallner of MLive: When Red Wings prospect Riley Sheahan was pulled over by the cops on October 29th, he was nearly four times (0.30) over the legal limit, and he was wearing a purple Teletubby costume. Sheahan was charged with providing false information as he was carrying Brendan Smith’s Michigan drivers license.
  • Stephen Whyno via twitter: Jason Chimera will be returning to the U.S. after 5 games with Chomutov in the Czech league. He was on a month-to-month deal.

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Ryan Murray likely done for the year

  • Aaron Portzline via twitter: Blue Jackets prospect Ryan Murray will likely be out for the remainder of the season. In 2 or 3 weeks he’ll have surgery to repair a torn labrum.
  • Ryan Murray: ”Well, the timing is terrible. It sucks that I’m going to miss the World Juniors and that I’ll never get that opportunity again.”


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Mediators coming in to help the NHL and NHLPA

  •  Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service Director George H. Cohen issued a statement regarding the NHL and NHLPA labor negotiations:

    “I have had separate, informal discussions with the key representatives of the National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players’ Association during the course of their negotiations for a successor collective bargaining agreement. At the invitation of the FMCS, and with the agreement of both parties, the ongoing negotiations will now be conducted under our auspices. I have assigned Deputy Director Scot L. Beckenbaugh, Director of Mediation Services John Sweeney, and Commissioner Guy Serota to serve as the mediators.”

    “Due to the extreme sensitivity of these negotiations and consistent with the FMCS’s long-standing practice, the Agency will refrain from any public comment concerning the future schedule and/or the status of the negotiations until further notice.”

  • TSN Radio via twitter: Bob McKenzie said: “Last time the NHL has mediation the season was cancelled 3 days later. However the divide was larger and it was too late. While there is still a divide the 2 sides are on the same page but they need to bridge the gap. Mediation is not arbitration. The PA has been pushing more for this (mediation).”
  • James Mirle via twitter: The NBA had mediation, and it didn’t accomplish much. On the positive side, there were long days of talks.
  • Chris Kuc via twitter: Blackhawks Steve Montador: ”There’s no power the mediators have to enforce anything, so I hope it helps to engage the NHL in negotiations.”
  • Craig Custance via twitter: Cory Schneider on having a mediator: ”Pretty tempered… hopefully it’ll provide some new perspective.”


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Injury updates on Klefbom, Gudbranson and Murray … Crosby thinking about going overseas … Stamkos staying … Tavares to get new deal

  • David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Oilers prospect Oscar Klefbom’s season could be over according to Swedish reporter Johan Eriksson.

    “Klefbom will undergo surgery which means his season is over,” Eriksson reports on Twitter. “Should be in Edmonton right now actually.”

  • George Richards of the Miami Herald: Panthers Erik Gudbranson had his first on-ice workout since September, and said “this is tough.” Gudbranson had been out with a shoulder injury. He did add that,

    “It felt really good to be out there. I’m a little surprised at how good it felt.”

    “Things are coming along. The training staff I’ve been working out with at home [Ottawa, Ontario] are great. This is a tough thing, but I’m excited about it getting better.”

    He’s still on a January timetable, and will join the Panthers AHL team in San Antonio when he’s ready to go. Gudbranson originally got hurt falling while wakeboarding, and told GM Dale Tallon that alcohol was involved. He had called each of teammates to tell them what had happened.

  • Aaron Portzline via twitter: Blue Jackets prospect Ryan Murray will meet with GM Scott Howson this morning to discuss their options with regards to his shoulder injury. Surgery is an option.
  • Dave Molinari of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: Penguins Sidney Crosby hasn’t decided on a team or country yet, but the odds of him playing overseas have increased of late.

    “You know what? It’s a lot more possible right now,” Crosby said after a player-organized workout at Southpointe. “I probably hadn’t thought about it quite as much as I have the past few days.

    “It’s definitely been something … with the way things are looking now, it’s not looking too good.”

  • Szymon Szemberg via twitter: Islanders John Tavares’ deal with SC Bern expires in four days. He’s expected to have the deal extended.

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