Archive for August, 2012

Bogosian out 4-6 months … Ovi, Crosby, Toews and Kane looking overseas … Tarasenko arriving today … Changes to HRR

  • Aaron Ward via twitter: “Players looking to clarify possible ‘double dipping’ in the new NHL proposal.Benefits in new HRR definition,present combined additional” … “expense deductions AND possible tax credits available to owners,while still asking players to absorb ‘escrow’ on salaries.”
  • Dmitry Chesnokov via twitter: KHLs Dynamo’s GM said that Alex Ovechkin’s attorney flew to Russia to speak with them regarding Ovechkin playing for them if there is a lockout.
  • Adam Jahns of the Chicago Sun-Times: Blackhawks Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane are considering playing in Europe in the event of a long lockout according to agent Pat Brisson.
  • Dennis Bernstein via twitter: The KHL will air games in Asia this year, with an eye on expanding to China, South Korea and Japan according to izvestia_ru.
  • Elliotte Friedman of CBC: In the NHLs most recent proposal, they made some changes to Hockey Related Revenue:

    1) In the existing CBA, teams can deduct the cost of doing business from HRR. But there are limits. For example, deductions from preseason games or “special games” such as European openers, “shall not in the aggregate exceed fifteen (15) per cent per League Year on a League-wide basis” of the revenues. You can find all of the examples, if you wish, in Article 50 of the current document. The NHL is arguing that costs far exceed these caps.

    2) One area of HRR the NHL cannot deduct ANY costs from is luxury suite sales (e.g., paying people to sell them). Everything must be thrown into the pot. Mistake, oversight, whatever - the league would like a re-do.

    3) Lightning owner Jeff Vinik spent $35 million US last summer to upgrade The Tampa Bay Times Forum. Meanwhile, Rangers owner Jim Dolan committed an estimated $977 million to a massive renovation of the Madison Square Garden. (Say what you want about Dolan, but doing that without public funding is extremely impressive.) As it stands, teams receive no financial credit for that. The league would like that changed. The model is probably the latest NFL CBA, which allows the league the option of taking 1.5 per cent from the NFLPA’s 47 per cent share to build new stadiums. Larger revenues from newer buildings, the reasoning goes, benefits the players, too.

    4) When players on one-way deals like Wade Redden or Jeff Finger are sent to the minors, their salaries no longer count. Not only is the NHL trying to eliminate this loophole from the salary-cap portion of the discussion, it is trying to make those contracts tied to HRR, too.

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The Oilers sign Jordan Eberle to 6 year contract extension

Edmonton Oilers via twitter:The Edmonton Oilers have signed Jordan Eberle to a 6 year, $36 million contract extension.

Edmonton Oilers via twitter: GM Steve Tambellini, “I’m happy for the organization and I’m proud of Jordan, because he deserves it.”

Edmonton Oilers via twitter: Tambellini, “We’re trying to solidify the core of this team … We’re very happy to have Taylor and Jordan signed long-term.”


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Free agent notes on Eberle, Turris and Omark … Injury notes on Bourque and Roy … Islanders top line

  • Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal: Negotiations between the Oilers and Jordan Eberle continue. He’ll likely get something similar to the $6 million that Taylor Hall got, but unlikely the 7 years, maybe 5 years. An extension could happen in the next few days, but likely not until after the long weekend. Eberle, Hall and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins could play in Oklahoma City of the AHL if there is a lockout.
  • Adam Gretz of CBS Sports: Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin said that Rene Bourque had abdominal surgery yesterday and will be sidelined for 8-12 weeks. Bourque was injured during his offseason training, suffering an “abdominal wall tear.” He should be ready by the end of November.
  • Mark Stepneski via twitter: Stars Derek Roy said his shoulder rehab is going well and that he hopes to start skating in 3 weeks or so, and is on target for a November return.
  • Brian Comptom of the Brad Boyes is expected to replace the departed P.A. Parenteau on the Islanders top line beside John Tavares and Matt Moulson.

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The CBA talks … Some of the fallout that may happen … Another issue with the Coyotes sale?

  • David Pagnotta via twitter: The NHL has proposed the salary cap numbers for the next 6 seasons, but concern is how will teams get under the cap since so many are over. A source said the NHL is willing to discuss transitioning contracts over to accommodate the salary cap. This hasn’t been discussed yet, but could have come up in yesterdays meetings.
  • Dan Rosen via twitter: A NHLPA rep said negotiations won’t start until this afternoon at the earliest, but could get pushed back until Friday.
  • Matias Strozyk via twitter: Rangers Henrik Lundqvist told Expressen that he’ll remain in North America for the fall, but if the lockout cancels the whole season, he’d like to play for Frolunda.
  • Eric Stephens of the OC Register: Ducks Teemu Selanne said he’d consider playing in Finland if there is a long lockout.

    “One of my best buddies [Jarmo Kekalainen] is the GM for them,” Selanne said. ”Let’s see. I say that I want to think about it. Let’s see how things go and we’ll see.

    “Obviously I know there’s a spot for me if I want to go. Like I said, I’m still optimistic but it doesn’t look good.”

  • Lisa Halverstadt of the Arizona Republic: Coyotes potential owner Greg Jamison said he’s ready to move forward, but now the city of Glendale wants to rework the 20 year, $324 million deal with him. The city was expected to send Jamison an updated draft last night.

    “We have the funds together,” he said. “We’re ready to go forward, and I’m ready to sign the deal that was negotiated earlier in the summer.”

    Glendale City Council directed administrators in a closed door session on Monday to not sign the deal until he buys the team from the NHL and amendments can be made to some parts of the deal.

    “Since June, the city and the NHL have been saying the next step is for Mr. Jamison to purchase the team, at which time the city was ready to sign the agreement,”she said. “At this time, in light of other issues, the council has asked us to go back and look at options that are feasible in terms of the management agreement.”

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Wings Dman search .. .Pietrangelo has surgery … Carlson still without a contract … Players to head to Europe/KHL … Yakupov says No to Sarnia

  • Ansar Khan of MLive: The Red Wings are still looking to add a defensemen,

    “We’re talking to a few people,” Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said. “There’s some veteran defensemen looking for an opportunity. We need to sign another defenseman, maybe two.

    The Wings have offered Carlo Colaiacovo a 2 year deal worth about $2.5 million per year. They have also shown interest in Michal Rozsival, Brett Clark and Mark Eaton.

  • Andy Strickland of True Hockey: Blues defenseman Alex Pietrangelo had minor ankle surgery yesterday to fix a busa sac issue. It will likely be a one week recovery from the surgery.
  • Steve Whyno of the Washington Times: Capitals John Carlson is still without a contract, but he’s not worried about it.

    “I love Washington, I love being here, I stay here for a lot of the summer. I like my teammates, I like the rink, I like the fans,” he said. “I can’t imagine playing anywhere else.”

  • Arthur Staple via twitter: The Ducks and Islanders checked with the NHL before putting the Lubomir Visnovsky trade through, and the NHL approved it, which could factor in to the grievance outcome.
  • Rob Rossi via twitter: Evgeni Malkin is intrigued to play for Magnitogorsk if there is a lockout, it’s not set in stone as of yesterday. Slava Malamud via twitter: Malkin’s agent said which KHL team he’ll play for has been decided on, but won’t be announced just yet.
  • Matias Strozyk via twitter: Metallurg has said all summer that they’ll have Evgeni Malkin, Sergei Gonchar and Nikolai Kulemin.
  • Damian Cristodero of the Tampa Bay Times: Martin St. Louis said he’d play in Europe if there is a lockout for an extended period of time.

    “With my age, you want to keep playing,” the 37-year-old said Monday. “I don’t want to take a year off. If the NHL wants to shut us down, we’ll go play somewhere else.”

    Steven Stamkos has also thought about playing in Europe,

    “Definitely thought about it if there is an extended lockout,” the center wrote in a text message.

    Lightning goalie prospect Jaroslav Janus signed a tryout with Slovan of the KHL. The Lightning decided to go with Dustin Tokarski and Riku Helenius in the AHL this season.

  • Sean Fitz-Gerald of the National Post: Oilers Nail Yakupov said “No” when asked if he’d go back to Sarnia if there was no NHL season. His agent suggested he might play in the KHL if there is a lockout.

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CBA Update

  • Aaron Ward via twitter: “League has deemed proposal ‘significant’ and ‘meaningful’.Issue is,if NHL moving off a position that has never been negotiated,is that in ” … “fact relevant.Would be same as if NHLPA proposed 65% of HRR and moved to lower % in later offer.Also indications that there is request to” … “change HRR definition which would result in reduced share of HRR.Question to be asked now is what is definition of HRR under recent offer?” … “This would essentially mean if you reduced player shares,you would reduce salaries.This would likely involve a salary rollback and” … “significant escrow hit to players.Bottom line,players will want to know what their share will be under the CURRENT HRR definitions.We are” … “back to determining if we have 2 sides on the same page and same issues or an inability to find ‘common language’.” … “NHL hasn’t proposed a salary rollback,under their proposal,the hit would all be under escrow.Doubt players will agree to proposal.”
  • Andy Strickland via twitter: Neither the NHL or NHLPA are in any rush top put their best offer on the table, or accept any offer in late August.
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: “NHL proposed a 6 year term today. Players Share: 2012/13 – 51.6% 2013/14 – 50.5% 2014/15 – 49.6% 2015/16 – 50% 2016/17 – 50% 2017/18 – 50%”
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: “I’m told league proposal reduce financial “ask” tabled in first proposal by $460 million including, by $120 million in Year 1.”
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: “Proposed Salary Caps: all projected and fixed: 2012/13 – $58M 2013/14 -$60M. 2014/15-$62M. 2015/16-$64.2M. 2016/17 – $67.6M 2017/18 – $71.1M”
  • Joe Haggerty via twitter: Proposal of $58 million salary cap would put 16 teams over, including the Bruins who would be $12 million over.
  • George Malik via twitter: “I think the bottom line for the NHL and PA is that they need to start talking from the same definition of hockey-related revenues.” … “Until the sides agree to use NHL or PA’s version of HRR, it’s like trying to translate Finnish to English and back. Which is painful.”

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CBA talks continue … Bruins talking with several players … Malkin and Kovalchuk to KHL if lockout … Canucks made offer for Doan

  • Aaron Ward via twitter: “they (players) may take less in the future,but not less than they already have.If NHL offer similar to first,we’re counting the days.” … “Key indication that CBA negotiations will move forward,if in fact NHL does table a proposal,is if the offer addresses NHLPA position that “
  • Dan Rosen via twitter: CBA talks today will include only Gary Bettman, Bill Daly, Donald Fehr and Steve Fehr and will focus on core economics.
  • The Fourth Period: Talks between the Bruins and Tyler Seguin are ongoing. The Bruins stepped up their efforts after Jeff Skinner and Taylor Hall signed. A Seguin deal could be in the 6 to 8 year range, and worth between $5 million and $7 million. The Bruins are also working on deals for Andrew Ference, Brad Marchand and Milan Lucic. All have 1 year left on their deals.
  • Slava Malamud via twitter: Sport-Express reports that if there is a lengthy lockout, Evgeni Malkin will play with CSKA, Ilya Kovalchuk for SKA, with Alex Ovechkin and Pavel Datsyuk to be determined. Magnitogorsk VP denies the Malkin to CSKA, saying they have the KHL contract arbitration ruling on their side.
  • Will DePaoli via twitter: Almost all of JP Barry’s Russian clients will play in the KHL if there is a lockout. Said that nothing was final regarding Malkin.
  • Dave Molinari via twitter: Penguins GM Ray Shero is not aggressively looking for a top-pairing defenseman, “Barring something unforeseen, we’ll go into training camp with group we have.” The main reason is they are rare and none are available at this time.
  • Josh Yohe via twitter: Shero on Shane Doan, “We have interest. But he has made it clear he wants to stay in Phoenix.”
  • Kevin Kurz of CSN Bay Area: Sergei Samsonov’s agent said yesterday that they are still speaking with several teams, and expects talks to extend into September. The Sharks are believed to be one of the teams interested.

    “Sergei is healthy, fit and determined to make a successful comeback into the NHL,” Abbott said. “The labor uncertainty, however, is affecting the process and the looming lockout complicates the matter.”

    Darren Dreger via twitter: The Canucks re-signed Eddie Lack to a 2 year deal worth $1.5 million.

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Morning notes on: CBA, Doan deadline, Ovechkin and KHL, Colaiacovo, Cousins, Huselius, Visnovsky and Kane

  • TSN: CBA talks made little progress last week, but both sides will meet again on Tuesday. Darren Dreger is saying that the league may present another offer.
  • Detroit Free Press: Shane Doan will sign somewhere before September 15th.

    “Shane is going to sign a contract before the CBA expires on the 15th,” Bross told the Arizona Republic. “(Ownership has to) be done before the 15th, otherwise we’re signing somewhere because we don’t know what the new CBA is going to look like, and I don’t know if it’s going to limit any scope of a contract, so we want to make sure we sign before then. I guess from that respect, time is ticking.”

  • Mike Brehm of USA Today: Moscow Dynamo GM said “We will talk with Ovechkin. It will be up to the head coach,” regarding having Ovechkin join them if there is a lockout. Team president Arkady Rotenberg may be thinking otherwise though,

    “I’m actually against it. And I don’t see any prestige in it,” Rotenberg told R-Sport. “I think that Ovechkin isn’t necessary.”

    Though Rotenberg added that he may consent if Safronov and head coach Oleg Znarok “persuade me strongly.”

  • Aaron Portzline via twitter: The Blue Jackets say that UFA Kristian Huselius won’t return their phone calls this summer. Huselius hasn’t been medically cleared yo play yet.
  • Matias Strozyk via twitter: Lubomir Visnovsky said he doesn’t have a problem playing with thie Islanders. He said he’s doing this not for just himself, but to follow the rules. (via
  • The Winnipeg Sun (Friday): Evander Kane’s agent on rumors that Kane asked to be traded,

    “No truth to it,” Craig Oster of Newport Sports said in a text message on Friday afternoon.

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Back posting on Monday

Last mini vacation of the year. Will be back posting on Monday.


Free Agent and trade notes on: Subban, Hall, Eberle, Seguin, Doan, Franzen, Luongo, Carlson and Fistric

  • L.A. Lariviere via twitter: P.K. Subban’s agent said there is no truth the report that Subban asked for a 5 year deal at $30 million, ”Another erroneous report. PK has not made any such request” Lariviere adds that his sources said that talks have been going on for a month, and they are moving very slow right now.
  • Dan Tener via twitter: Taylor Hall’s agent approached Oilers GM Steve Tambellini at the draft about starting contract extension talks.
  • Dan Tencer via twitter: Oilers GM Tambellini on Jordan Eberle’s contract extension: “We’ve had some discussions, but I really don’t have anything to report.” Ryan Rishaug via twitter: Would expect that Eberle’s deal will get done shortly. Will likely be the same money as Hall, but the term could be shorter.
  • David Pagnotta via twitter: Talks between the Tyler Seguin and the Boston Bruins have been fluid, should pick up after the Taylor Hall signing.
  • Jimmy Murphy via twitter: Sources close to the Shane Doan camp say that Phoenix is still his number one priority, regardless of the other offers he has. Sources also said that he and his agent have received some good news on that front, his agent Terry Bross wouldn’t confirm.
  • Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press: Johan Franzen’s production and reasonable cap hit ($3.9 million, runs through 2019-20) gives the Red Wings high value in a potential trade for a top 4 defenseman that they badly need.
  • Dustin Leed via twitter: Leed was told earlier this offseason that there are certain players the Flyers will always keep a close eye on, John Carlson was one player mentioned.
  • Mike Heika of the Dallas Morning News: If the Stars ever decide to trade Mark Fistric, the could look at what they got last year from the Flyers for Nicklas Grossman, a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

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CBA talks … Kronwall may join brother in KHL if lockout … Oilers lack depth at center … AHL to test no-touch icing

  • Chris Johnson via twitter: CBA talks are set to start at 9:30 am this morning, with economic issues the main topic of the day.
  • Aaron Portzline via twitter: “People on both sides of the aisle believe next couple days in NHL-NHLPA talks could go a long way to determining how long stalemate lasts.” … “If NHL and NHLPA become hardened in their positions, demanding the other negotiate off their proposal, this could take a long time.” … “Can the two proposals be melded together? Certainly. And that will be the first sign of significant progress, first sign of hope.”
  • Dennis Bernstein via twitter: There is speculation out of Sweden that Red Wings defenseman Niklas Kronwall could join his brother Steffen with Lokomotiv in the KHL over Djurgarden of the SEL if there is a long lockout.
  • Bruce McCurdy of the Edmonton Journal: The Oilers lack depth at center, and are not very big. Their top 4 projects to be Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner, Shawn Horcoff, and Eric Belanger. If one was to get injured, Anton Lander may be their replacement. Chris VandeVelde could also be an option. Next down the list are centers Mark Zarcobello, Tyler Pitlick and Ryan Martindale.

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Don Fehr talking CBA negotiations – August 22nd and 21st

Wednesday August 22nd, 2012

Tuesday August 21st, 2012


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